The links for "Pianika and Robert Ormsby and The Story of Hoani Ormsby" have been removed as per the request of Owen Ormsby. Below is the e-mail request:
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002
From: "Owen Ormsby" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Ormsby Maori Family New Zealand
Tena koe, greetings,
My name is Owen Ormsby and I am a researcher and historian of the New Zealand Anglo Maori Ormsby family history.
I have just sighted on the web site www.ormsby.net the following writings of my own personal family collections and was alarmed to see the family genealogy there.
From a Maori perspective under the law of tikanga(knowledge & protocol) and whakawhanaungatanga(family values in sharing and comforting) one does not place the names of living people on such telecommunications.
I refer to my writings of the following:
1, The life story of Hoani Ormsby, this is private and personal information and is of my immediate family and is not for public perusal on the internet .
2. Pianika & Robert Ormsby, the same as above , this is private and personal information and to be exchanged at family gatherings and preserved as a sacred taonga or treasure, again not for public perusal.
I realise that there may be those of the family Ormsby that
are not aware of the sacred knowledge of Maori genealogy and that
elders(kaumatua)must first give their permission for such to be
Genealogy is a sacred element of the NZ indigenous people and is to be treated with respect.
I am not too sure to whom I am communicating with here and would like to know how we can work together to maintain a strong European history of the Ormsby Family and acknowledge the Maori New Zealand perpsective to the Ormsby Family.
And that Maori genealogy can be accessed by those of Maori
descent from the Ormsby family but through correspondence rather
than through the net, in other words for those seeking info on
Pianika & Robert Ormsby please contact ........
The life of Hoani Ormsby please contact ........
I would like the Life story of Hoani Ormsby removed, this man was my grandfather and there are children of ths man still living who are upset that their names are there for public scrutiny.
I also wrote Pianika & Robert Ormsby as told to me by many loved ones who are now gone as well as researched records of my own private collection therfore I would like this removed as well.
I am happy to supply family with information but not for it to found this way.
I would welcome correspondence with you as to how we can work together for a common cause.
Here is an acceptional site for Ormsby's. This site is by Darren and Mary Ormsby:
I was wondering if you could put the below text on the Ormsby site under Australia & New Zealand section
This is what information I have to now, about my family connections. Please let me know if you can add to any of what I have. And in return I hope this helps you out also.
Lanea Marie Ormsby <email@example.com>
hui at Tapuaeharuru in labour weekend, come along and meet the whanau.
The information on these pages is being provided by Phil from Australia. He is graciously allowing me to include his research on this site. A special thanks to Aroha for providing the information on Benjamin Ormsby.
Just a quick message to say thank you very much for your help. I checked out www.ormsby.org and found under Aust/NZ Robert and Mere Pianika, my Great great grandfather and grandmother, through their son Benjamin my Koro, Joseph Paerau Ormsby was born (I havent found BJ's wife's name or details) and he married Hana Ngahiwi Hotu and my mother was born to them, Verna Leona Ormsby. My family are going to be over the moon to know all this new information about our family name. So once more thank you very much.
PO Box 166, Ngongotaha,
(021) 160 77 41
Date: February 16, 2001
Oliver Cromwell Ormsby
William and Elsie Ormsby
My name is Kim Whittaker(nee Ormsby). My father is Don Ormsby who comes from Tauranga, New Zealand. He has 6 other brothers and 3 sisters. His father and mother were William and Elsie Ormsby from McLarens Falls Rd, Kaimais, Tauranga. I would be interested to know if you have any information on my fathers family and my grandfathers. My great grandfather was Oliver Cromwell Ormsby.
Tina Inglis/nee Tane Tinorau
Date: May 26, 2001 at
I am wondering if you are aware that the Ormsby whanau has a family homestead in Otorahanga?. I have been there on a number of occasions (when I was much younger), and I do know that the amount of information held there is absolutely wonderful. All our Tupuna are displayed by means of portraits on the wall in a special room, there are many, many ledgers dated way back to the early 1900, maybe even the late 1800. It really is a place (if you haven't already) to visit. I am sorry that I do not have the address or phone number, but the homestead has been made an historical place or museum which is open to the public.
Date: November 17, 2001
Gilbert Ormsby and mary Lloyd
Owen Ormsby married Anne Phibbs
Reading this forum has sparked my interest in completing an update of a 1886 document called Pedigree of the Family of Ormsby that has been in my possession for several years. I have recorded the only offspring of Gilbert Ormsby and Mary Lloyd as one Owen who was married to Anne Phibbs. I couldnt find a reference to Benjamin and would be pleased if you could send me more information on him so I can keep these records up to date.
Christina (Tina) Pealing nee Tane
Date: December 07, 2001
Yes there are many many decendants of Gilbert Ormsby in NZ. In fact a family tree is under construction right now. If you write to this lady she will give you more details: Ellen Pearce, 164 Koromatua road, R D 10, Hamilton New Zealand. She is not on email that I know of. I am a decendant of Gilberts daughter Huti. She is my Great grandmother and Her husband is credited with discovering the world famous Waitomo glow worm caves. Family history has it that she did actually.
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